This episode is a conversation that I recorded with Gary Kleiban in December 2016.

The topic we focus on is the phrase: It’s just a game.”

We discussed what those words mean to us. We also talk about other people using that phrase to their advantage when its convenient for them to do so.

I've been recording my weekly conversations with Gary for years. Some of them have been released in the past. The majority of them will be locked in the 3four3 vault forever. But this particular conversation covers a number of important topics and provides a necessary dose of truth into the very polluted American soccer conversation.

It's time to debunk the American myth that soccer is just a game. It’s way more than a game.

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Other relevant episodes and resources:

• Yes, White Boys Can Play Soccer; Maybe, Sometimes, Hmmm
  
• Episode 109: A Potent Conversation with Gary Kleiban Discussing the Fundamental Problem in American Soccer: Education.
  
• Episode 125: Why Is American Soccer So SOFT? Real Talk With Kephern Fuller and Gary Kleiban Returns.

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