This episode is a conversation that was recorded on June 1, 2016 in Sacramento, California. The conversation takes place in a hotel lobby. It was about 4 hours prior to kickoff between Sacramento’s Republic F.C. and Kitsap Pumas from Washington.

Why was I there?

Well, Assistant Coach Liviu Bird was nice enough to invite me to be part of the operation for a day. So I drove about six hours north to meet him and the rest of the team in Sacramento. The plan all along was to record a podcast with Liviu. But what I ended up getting was more.

Enjoy this podcast featuring Robin Waite, Liviu Bird, and myself as we discuss the past, present, and future of Kitsap Pumas.